Pop Culture and the Curriculum
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 05:49:14 -0400
From: Deborah Louis <dlouis44 AT SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: popular culture/BuffyI find the conceptual separation of "popular" from "elite" culture on
this list really interesting, as in fact they both fulfill the same
"enculturating" function and deliver and reinforce the same messages to
their respective consumers, albeit in their different respective
languages and other stimuli--all to reinforce the status quo/dominant
ideology/established power relations and insure that they continue
without fundamental change from generation to generation.
Shakespeare's works did that in his day for the masses, and do it now
for the privileged--and the message is the same, no matter how
beautiful the language: women are weak, dependent, romantic,
dangerous, deceitful and in need of "taming." Messages that challenge
status quo power relations and belief-systems are PREVENTED FROM
becoming "popular" by those in power, who have the means of controlling
the information marketplace (some slipping by in the guise of
children's literature or male authorship notwithstanding)--any teenage
girl in the U.S. can tell you all about Paris Hilton, Beyonce, and
Snoop Dogg but few have ever heard of Ani DiFranco or Sweet Honey in
the Rock. It seems to me that part of our job as educators and
"consciousness-raisers" is to expose students to those ideas and sounds
and images they DON'T get routinely out there in the world, while
arming them with critical lenses through which to EVALUATE and
RECOGNIZE, rather than simply absorb and accept (and in the context of
the conversation on this list, venerate!), the familiar, engaging,
literally mindbending fare...
And mainly BECAUSE OF its familiarity I certainly recognize the
pedagogical utility of pop culture references and examples in the
classroom--indeed I used to scandalize my colleagues by incorporating
said references and examples into whatever I was teaching (which I
still do but obviously it's no longer objectionable!)--I also fully
support the idea of having a course offering or two that address pop
culture AS A GENRE and apply feminist analysis (in the WS context) to
selected examples of same. As per my earlier post, I also find it
interesting that the lengthy pseudo-scholarly defense of channeling an
entire course's-worth of student time and attention into Buffy
(including credence to Buffy "conventions" as having some sort of
intrinsic value apart from being perhaps a critical analysis field
project experience!) is put forth by a PhD candidate in Literature and
Media Studies. That is EXACTLY where that attention belongs--but to
sweepingly generalize it to a WOMEN'S Studies core course and/or core
focus (as opposed to an interesting cross-listing) is what becomes
problematic for me. Nowhere in this conversation have I noticed a
focus on POLITICAL ECONOMY, which is what I would expect to be the
primary theme of a WS "take" on pop culture trends and icons...
Re an "intellectual defense" of my remarks? Forward a grant and I'll
write the book. Send me a contract and I'll design and teach the
course. Deposit the consultant fee in PayPal and I'll be glad to
assemble the literature review. Sponsor a talking circle of elder
wisewomen and I'll be there with the copal and white feather of truth.
In the meantime, the discourse continues..
Deb Louis
dlouis44 AT sbcglobal.net
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 08:46:17 -0400
From: Daphne Patai <daphne.patai AT SPANPORT.UMASS.EDU>
Subject: Re: popular culture/BuffyDeb Louis wrote:
"I find the conceptual separation of "popular" from "elite" culture on this
list really interesting, as in fact they both fulfill the same
"enculturating" function and deliver and reinforce the same messages to
their respective consumers, albeit in their different respective
languages and other stimuli--all to reinforce the status quo/dominant
ideology/established power relations and insure that they continue
without fundamental change from generation to generation."
Yet the rest of her message is self-refuting, for it suggests -- might I say
"in an elitist fashion: -- that some people, such as Louis herself, somehow
manage to break through these delusions and promote "fundamental change."
Are these people outside of "culture"? Abductees who've gotten wisdom on
another planet?
If what students are learning is the generalization offerd by Deb about how
"culture" functions to reinforce the status quo, then how does she think she
ever got the smarts to think through it and make the statement she made? Of
course one answer (as well as mountains of examples) is that culture is not
nearly so monolithic, that writers have done many different things with
their writing, that historical change is a fact, that the human mind is
imaginative and can think itself outside its immediate limitations. I
suspect Deb Louis actually DOES know this, and knows how her own thinking
has benefited from her predecessors' efforts. (BTW, it's equally false to
say, as some critics do, that *all* writing is subversive and
revolutionary.)
But what are the consequences of the assertion with which Deb began her
message? If everything reduces to what she claims, why on earth should
anyone ever study anything? All one needs to know is the bottom line, as
articulated by Louis-- though it is ahistorical, dogmatic, and profoundly
false. What an economical intellectual move.
That a professor should make the assertions Deb Louis did is shocking; that
that professor should be a former president of the National Women's Studies
Association is even more amazing. I've always felt that hope for women's
studies lies with individual teachers who don't subscribe to some of the
general dogmas of the field -- such as Deb's assertion. If one teaches
students critical thinking skills, as Deb goes on to say, they will see the
self-refuting aspect of Deb's message. I dare hope Deb as a teacher is
successful while Deb as a feminist propagandist is not. And the conflation
of the two is what I continue to worry about.
P.S. Deb, lots of people, including professors, write books without grants.
Do you want students and younger colleagues not to know this? Another
misrepresentation of the actual world. Furthermore, lots of feminist
projects have been awarded grants, for decades now, which should be
impossible if "culture" is as you describe it.
Daphne Patai
daphne.patai AT spanport.umass.edu
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:12:13 -0400
From: "Pilardi, Jo-Ann" <jpilardi AT TOWSON.EDU>
Subject: Re: popular culture/BuffyI agree with Peggy Davis and others defending the study of popular
culture in women's studies. For those of us teaching, the question
is: how do we make it worth teaching? Isn't it the same question we
ask if we're teaching the novels of Jane Austen? In a media-saturated
society overrun by the interests of global capitalism, women's studies
teachers should want our students (1) to gain the ability to use
gender to apply critical analysis to representations of women,
femininity, and masculinity in mainstream (commercial) film,
literature, television shows, advertising, and music in contemporary
American popular culture; (2) to develop a scholarly attitude about
heavily marketed products of popular culture and their encroachment
into students' lives and value systems, as regards gender; --and let's
not forget (3) to gain the ability to use gender analysis to evaluate
the diverse responses of "alternative" female and feminist artists and
alternative media to mainstream popular culture, in regard to women
and gender.
[Those 3 items are among the objectives on my "American Women and Popular Culture" course syllabus.]
Jo-Ann Pilardi, Towson Univ., MD jpilardi AT towson.edu
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:19:41 -0400
From: Hagolem <hagolem AT C4.NET>
Subject: Re: changing thread and popular cultureAt 01:34 PM 9/15/2006 -0400, you wrote:
> I take both sides on this issue. I am often appalled at what my
>students don't know about the world. Recently I brought up conflicts in
>Northern Ireland between the Protestants and Catholics and was met with
>mystified looks. The college students had never heard of this! This happens
>a lot. I mention something in passing that should be part of shared
>knowledge and students don't know it. But I am thinking of two other factors
>that bear on this discussion.
Second this. I was guest teaching a women's studies class AT a western
university -- juniors mostly -- and i mentioned the Vietnam War. A student
asked me if that was the same as the Civil War....
i believe in reading. In all the writing workshops Ira and I teach
separately or together, we emphasize that you cannot write without
reading. But Buffy is not chick-lit. It was highly literate and unusually
complex. It had a lot of subtext. I also get alarmed at the frequent use
of videos in place of books in classrooms, however. One time when I was a
visiting lecturer for a semester, I assigned a book a week and by the 4th
week I had a revolt on my hands.
marge piercy
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:33:25 -0400
From: Gail Dines <gdines AT WHEELOCK.EDU>
Subject: Pop Culture: More than just a text.Teaching pop culture is not about buying into the dumbing down of
American Culture but about harnessing the powerful tools of critical
media theory to the analysis of pop culture as both a text and in
industry. In cultural studies, the approach is to explore three
connected but discreet areas:
1. the political economy of media
2. textual formation
3. the politics of consumption
In America, there is a fascination with 2 where texts are endlessly
debated in a vacuum as if they just fell from the sky and exist
outside of the political economy of capitalism. Buffy certainly is
very interesting textually but it is produced within a complex set of
economic relations and consumed within a culture where the hegemonic
discourse is reproduced minute by minute in pop culture. This is not
to argue that texts are not polysemic, but that, as Hall so well
showed in his Encoding/Decoding article, they are structured in
dominance, thus limiting their polysemic qualities.
Teaching about pop culture is more than talking about texts. It is a
way into a broader analysis of the political economy of capitalism, an
analysis of how ideology works in a society where inequality is
structural and a means for understanding how identity is constructed
and reconstructed by consumer capitalism. It is this identity
formation that helps to explain how this country has ended up backing
a war that the rest of the world is against, why working class people
constantly vote against their class interests, why women capitulate to
patriarchal representation of themselves and so on. Pop culture is
never trivial, no matter how trivial the text may seem as it is
heavily implicated in the economic, social and political structures of
the society in which it is produced and consumed.
Gail
Gail Dines
Professor of Sociology and Women's Studies
Chair of American Studies
Wheelock College
35 Pilgrim Road
Boston, MA 02215
gdines AT wheelock.edu
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:51:53 -0400
From: Nina K. Martin <nkmarti AT EMORY.EDU>
Subject: discipline boundariesI too have been following the pop culture thread on the list quite
avidly, especially because I'm going on the job market this year and am
applying to many jobs of both the women's studies and film studies
variety. Luckily, there are a plethora of Women and Media Studies jobs
now listed that would seem to bridge my two interests remarkably
well--hoorah.
Yet, I'm quite confused by Deb Louis's posting. Is there a women's
studies "approach" that is specific to the field (perhaps largely
Sociology-based)? I'm thrilled that there are stand alone Women's
Studies departments (Emory now has one--not a "program"), but so many
are filled with joint appointments, and women's studies can be
extremely interdisciplinary it seems.
So what's the 411? I'm trying to take the temperature of the field,
and as someone who analyzes both popular culture and pornography--hot
topics on this list--I'm just trying to figure out if there's place for
me.
best wishes,
Dr. Nina K. Martin
Assistant Professor of Film Studies
Emory University
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:05:55 -0400
From: Jennifer Musial <jmusial AT YORKU.CA>
Subject: teaching popular cultureAs someone who's currently teaching a course on "sex, gender and popular
culture", let me say that teachers rarely *just* have students watch an
episode of Buffy or *just* read a pop-lit novel. The implication of some
replies here is that there is a dichotomy between good teachers=classical
lit/theory, bad teachers=popular culture. As a teacher of popular culture,
I feel students are done a disservice if we don't provide the tools of
analysis. So, my students are currently reading articles by Stuart Hall,
Laura Mulvey, etc. and I've lectured on neo-Marxism, the Frankfurt School,
Gramscian hegemony, etc. Their first assignment is to take theory and apply
it to a popular text of their choosing. The point is that they are learning
difficult cultural THEORY, not just enjoying a film every week.
I was re-reading Janice Radway's study on romance reading for class this
week and her article seems appropriate here. She reminds us that people
derive *pleasure* from popular culture. Echoing sentiments made earlier, it
is WAY more difficult to get students to critique popular culture than it is
to have them do a close reading of classical literature. It is much harder
to turn an analytical eye to something we enjoy than it is to be a distanced
critical thinker.
As someone who grew up on a diet of soap operas and music videos because I
was a "latchkey kid" (two parents working, mom doing shift work and needed
to sleep in the afternoons...), I can tell you that "the kids are all
alright", and can go on to become intelligent, articulate critics of the
popular culture they consume.
Jennifer
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Jennifer Musial
PhD Candidate - School of Women's Studies
Collective Member - Centre for Women and Trans People at York
York University
Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:12:46 -0400
From: Karen Bojar <kbojar AT CCP.EDU>
Subject: Re: changing thread and popular cultureMarge Piercy has put her finger on something we have been dancing around here:
"I also get alarmed at the frequent use
of videos in place of books in classrooms, however. One time when I was a
visiting lecturer for a semester, I assigned a book a week and by the 4th
week I had a revolt on my hands."
Many of us veteran teachers have made accommodations to students' resistance to reading we would have found appalling in the early years of our teaching careers.
Karen Bojar
Professor of English
Coordinator of Women's Studies Program
Community College of Philadelphia
1700 Spring Garden Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130
kbojar AT ccp.edu
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:45:57 -0700
From: Jessica Nathanson <janathanson AT YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: changing thread and popular cultureIf people are assigning films instead of books as
"accommodations," that's one issue. (Though I would
argue that sometimes you have to do what you have to
do to reach your students. I have taught community
college classes to students, many of whom are nearly
illiterate. What am I to do in that case? Fail the
class? I don't have the power to do that and keep my
teaching position. So I do include films, as well,
and teach students the same concepts and skills that
way. This provides a point of access for some
students, and a way to apply what we've been learning
to their "real lives," which are lived in the popular
culture, for others.)
But then, in other cases, lots of us assign films
instead of books because in our classes, the films are
the texts. I generally ask my literary genres class
to analyze a play or a film (they choose - this is
after we've read and analyzed a couple of plays and
viewed and analyzed one film as a class); those who
pick the film watch it over and over and take copious
notes. I've gone to a local coffeeshop at midnight to
grade papers and run into my students doing just this
on their laptops. So I know that they are developing
a critical eye and working hard to write the kind of
analysis I'm asking for.
I too, however, have encountered a resistance to
reading. In my experience, it has helped a lot if I
choose texts that I really enjoy reading, myself. I
also think that we have to adapt our teaching
approaches in order to teach students who are
unaccustomed to reading and who may need help. That
doesn't have to mean shorter or fewer books (depending
on the population), but it might mean teaching reading
skills and strategies as an integral part of the
course.
Jessica Nathanson
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Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:02:56 -0700
From: Jessica Nathanson <janathanson AT YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: changing thread and popular cultureIn creating Buffy, Joss Whedon has said that he wanted
to offer a heroine who was an antidote to all of the
women who kept getting killed off in horror and
slasher films - a strong female character who would
always survive. And, regardless of whatever
criticisms you might have of the show, that's what he
did (Buffy wasn't the only strong female character,
either). Further, the strong male characters were
thoughtful, feminist men. The show also had a
decidedly pro-gay bent, giving us one of the first
lesbian relationships - if not THE first - in a show
of this kind (the relationship lasted for a few
seasons). (I have criticisms of how exactly he did
this, but basically, we got a loving relationship
between two women and we saw it develop over a couple
of years. Not bad.)
If you read interviews with the cast and with Whedon,
you will find that they worked very hard and very
deliberately to produce a show that was feminist,
antihomophobic, and antiracist. If you look at the
characters and themes and story arcs, you will see
this mission reflected clearly.
It's pretty difficult for anyone who watched the show
over the course of its production to so easily dismiss
it as antifeminist pop culture.
(For what it's worth, I'm an interdisciplinary WS
scholar. I teach both Social Science and Humanities
courses in Women's and Gender Studies. And my
research combines Sociology, History, Literature, and
Popular Culture. No divide here.)
Jessica Nathanson
Dr. Jessica Nathanson
Visiting Assistant Professor
English and Gender Studies
Augustana College
janathanson AT yahoo.com
nathanson AT augie.edu
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 08:53:57 EDT
From: Anne D'Arcy <CoonHollow AT AOL.COM>
Subject: Popular Culture and bell hooksI've found that a very useful way to start off a class or unit in
popular culture is with bell hooks's video lecture on the topic titled
"Cultural Criticism and Transformation." She begins with the question
(why study popular culture?) and moves into all the areas that have
been discussed on this list so far, using film snippets to illustrate
her points. Whether or not you like hooks, this lecture will serve
you. A particularly valuable aspect is that she opens up the racist
facets of popular culture, so be prepared to help students over the
"white wall" in your deconstruction of the film. If your university
library doesn't have it, you can get it from another via interlibrary
loan. I got it from Cal State Univesity, Chico. If anyone wants to
see my notes on the film before deciding to find it, feel free to
contact me offlist.
Anne D'Arcy, Ph.D.
CSUC (retired)
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Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 08:16:51 -0500
From: Jane Olmsted <jane.olmsted AT WKU.EDU>
Subject: Re: changing thread and popular cultureWhen I was working on my Ph.D. I often had 2 books a week to read, and
unlike many of my peers, I actually read all the books. Others joked
about techniques for reading first and last paragraphs. Our undergrad
students take 4-5 classes a semester, not the 2 (and at most 3) I took
at the doctoral at the U of MN. If they're English or History majors,
their reading load is especially heavy. Some professors here still try
to teach a book a week, but if students are taking 2-3 English classes,
it can mount up to 2-3 books a week. What kind of reading enjoyment or
absorption can be accomplished when they're racing through readings? Not
too long after I got my PhD I started "mellowing out" with regards to
the number of books I teach.
I think it's fair and respectful to our students to moderate our zest
for piling it on. Many of my students work 30-40 hours a week, some have
children. For instance, in a junior-level class I'm teaching on
multicultural literature, we're reading 6 single-author books and 1
anthology. We're just finishing with Bernard Malamud's stunning "The
Fixer"--I've allowed 2 weeks on this--the second day of the second week
we'll finish it up then watch "Unfinished Business" about the
incarceration of Japanese in WWII....this in preparation for reading
John Okada's "No No Boy." Using this documentary to help set the context
seems like a good idea to me--I use documentaries quite a lot, as there
are many excellent ones out there.....Then on to Gayl Jones's
"Corregidora"--this is a tough novel, but it's short (thank goodness!)
It's awful to dumb down one's reading assignments. It's also not right
to put our students under a too-heavy reading load that promotes a kind
of learning that skips across the service r/t delving into the
depths--that takes time, time to read, time to discuss, time to reflect,
time to write about...
my 2 cents,
jane
Jane Olmsted, Director
Women's Studies Program
Associate Professor, English
Western Kentucky University
Karen Bojar wrote:
>Marge Piercy has put her finger on something we have been dancing around here:
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:15:07 -0400
From: Jackie Regales <jregales AT COMCAST.NET>
Subject: teaching popular cultureIn response to this conversation, I started a blog (yes, I know there
are thousands these days) on teaching popular culture:
http://teachingpopularculture.blogspot.com
There's only a few posts and resources up right now, but I would
welcome any co-bloggers, guest posts, or other contributions. I think
it's really important to have a public forum to discuss and share
resources, across disciplines, and hope to see your comments and
thoughts.
Please send any suggestions or possible posts to teachpopculture (at)
gmail (dot) com
Thanks,
Jackie
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